There have been times
Alan Seeger’s “There have been times” is a poem of extraordinary poise: a love lyric in which longing does not erupt into accusation, but is trained into endurance. Its speaker begins from an admission of former emotional intensity—there were occasions when he “could storm and plead”—only to reject such behavior in the present. The refusal is not a denial of need. Indeed, the poem repeatedly insists that need has become stronger over “long months.” What has changed is the speaker’s relation to that need. Rather than making him more demanding, deprivation has made him less “importunate,” less inclined to press claims upon the beloved. This paradox gives the poem its distinctive emotional pressure. Desire is not overcome; it is disciplined. Love is not renounced; it is made more dangerous by being held silently within the self.
The poem belongs recognizably to the tradition of the English love sonnet, yet it possesses a mood that complicates the expectations associated with that tradition. Sonnets have long been vehicles for persuasion, praise, complaint, erotic argument, and the dramatization of emotional reversals. Seeger uses the compact intensity of the form to stage a subtler drama: the speaker attempts to persuade his beloved not to love him too securely, too gently, or too happily. Such a request is startling. Conventional love poetry often asks for greater favor, greater intimacy, or some sign of reciprocity. Here, however, the speaker asks the beloved to remain “capricious” and “willful,” and even permits her to wound him with “unkindness.” The apparent humility of this permission conceals a profound fear. Mutual devotion, he suggests, might make life itself too precious at precisely the moment when he must prepare for hardship, danger, or sacrifice.
The opening phrase, “There have been times,” immediately establishes a temporal distance between the speaker’s present self and an earlier self. It sounds reflective rather than impulsive. The speaker does not say that he is incapable of storming or pleading; he says that there have been moments when he could do so. The past tense makes emotional vehemence a remembered possibility. In the next breath, the declaration “you shall never hear me supplicate” turns private history into a stern vow. “Supplicate” is a deliberately elevated word. It belongs to the language of prayer, petition, and formal submission. Its use makes the speaker’s romantic desire seem nearly religious in intensity, while also making his renunciation of pleading seem solemn and ritualized. He will not place himself in the position of a worshipper begging for grace, even though the beloved’s smallest attentions have acquired immense value.
That tension between dignity and dependency animates the poem throughout. The speaker’s need has been “magnified” by time, a word that suggests enlargement through an external instrument, as though absence has acted like a lens. Yet this magnification does not lead to escalating demands. On the contrary, “small favors seem to me so great.” The language catches the strange economy of deprived affection: when intimacy is scarce, a word, a gesture, a letter, or a brief moment of warmth can become disproportionately meaningful. The speaker’s diminished expectations may appear noble, but Seeger does not allow us to read them as uncomplicatedly serene. They are the consequence of long waiting. They reveal not freedom from desire but the adaptation of desire to scarcity. The loved person has become so emotionally powerful that even minor acts of kindness seem like riches.
The poem’s emotional subtlety lies partly in its refusal to condemn this condition. The speaker does not accuse the beloved of cruelty for withholding favors. Nor does he portray himself simply as a victim. Instead, he converts privation into a form of courtly discipline. His comparison with “the courteous lovers of old time” reaches back toward the medieval and Renaissance traditions of idealized, often unattainable love. In courtly literature, the lover commonly serves a lady whose status, distance, or indifference intensifies his devotion. He proves worthiness through patience, eloquence, suffering, and self-command. Seeger’s speaker imagines himself in this tradition, “content to rule themselves and wait,” easing desire through “discourse and sweet rhyme.” The phrase carries a self-conscious literary charm: poetry itself becomes one of the means by which desire is managed.
Yet the appeal to older lovers is not mere ornament or nostalgic costume. It raises a question about the role of literary tradition in emotional life. The speaker has inherited cultural scripts for how one may endure longing. He can turn to the image of the courteous lover who does not demand satisfaction but transforms delay into language. “Discourse and sweet rhyme” offer alternatives to possession: conversation, reflection, artistic expression. The poem thereby reflects on its own making. It is itself an instance of the “sweet rhyme” through which desire is eased, though “eased” should not be mistaken for cured. Poetry does not solve the speaker’s predicament. It gives it measure, shape, and voice. The act of writing becomes an ethical as well as aesthetic discipline, allowing passion to be articulated without being allowed to become coercive.
This courtly posture is complicated, however, by the startling shift introduced with “Nay.” The word interrupts the preceding idealization. After invoking patient lovers of the past, the speaker does not ask the beloved to reward his patience. He goes further into self-denial. “Be capricious, willful; have no fear / To wound me with unkindness done or said.” The imperative is paradoxical and emotionally charged. To invite injury is not necessarily to desire pain; it can be an attempt to control the terms under which pain arrives. If the beloved remains unpredictable or harsh, the speaker may preserve a defensive distance from happiness. He will suffer, but he will not become vulnerable to the more devastating possibility of having much to lose.
Seeger’s language here is precise. “Capricious” suggests changeability, behavior governed by impulse rather than dependable affection. “Willful” suggests a self-directed, perhaps resistant autonomy. The speaker does not demand that the beloved become gentle or constant; he seems almost to protect her right to be difficult. In one sense, this is an extreme form of romantic generosity, a refusal to make love into ownership. In another sense, it is a troubling strategy of emotional self-protection. The beloved is asked to perform unkindness because her tenderness would create obligations and attachments the speaker fears he cannot sustain. Love becomes entangled with anticipatory loss. The poem’s apparent passivity is therefore not simple surrender. It is a deliberate, if painful, effort to prepare the self for an approaching ordeal.
The central revelation arrives in the image of a life that “hangs by a so slender thread.” This familiar metaphor of fragility draws upon a long cultural history. Classical mythology imagined human lives as threads governed by the Fates, powers who spin, measure, and finally cut the thread allotted to each person. Seeger does not name these figures, but the phrase inevitably evokes a world in which mortality is precarious and perhaps beyond human control. The indefinite article in “a so slender thread” intensifies the image’s delicacy; the speaker’s life is not merely uncertain in the abstract but visibly suspended, dependent on something thin enough to break.
That metaphor changes the meaning of all that precedes it. The speaker’s refusal to supplicate is no longer only a matter of romantic pride. His cultivated patience is not merely a courtly pose. He believes himself close to some danger, perhaps literal death, perhaps a hazardous public duty, perhaps an ordeal demanding the abandonment of private ease. The poem does not specify the nature of that danger, and its power partly depends on this reticence. The “slender thread” can speak to soldiers, travelers, the ill, those facing political violence, or anyone who feels that the future has narrowed into uncertainty. By keeping the threat unnamed, Seeger permits the lyric to retain both biographical resonance and universal force.
The final phrase, “that stern part that I have yet to play,” makes life seem theatrical. The speaker imagines himself as an actor assigned a role by forces larger than personal desire. “Part” suggests both an artistic role and a duty within a larger action. “Stern” conveys severity, discipline, and emotional hardness. Whatever awaits him is not represented as an adventure to be enjoyed; it is an obligation to be performed. The verb “play” might seem light or artificial, but in this context it emphasizes the difficult coexistence of agency and destiny. An actor must act, yet does not choose the script. So too the speaker appears to accept a part already waiting for him, one that requires him to preserve his nerve against the softening effects of fulfilled love.
The mention of “May” deepens this atmosphere of expectancy. May conventionally signifies spring, renewal, fertility, and the resurgence of life. In pastoral and lyric traditions, it is a season associated with lovers, blossoms, and celebration. Seeger’s use of the month is therefore poignant: the anticipated time of renewal is also the threshold of danger. “Before May” does not merely establish a date; it creates a deadline. Happiness must not “unnerve” him before that moment. The word “unnerve” is especially significant because it combines emotional and bodily meanings. To be unnerved is to lose courage, composure, and strength; the word recalls the nerves as the physical channels of sensation and action. Happy love may weaken him not because joy is contemptible, but because joy makes survival more urgently desirable. The speaker fears that affection will bind him too intimately to the world he may have to leave.
In this respect, the poem belongs to a modern historical climate in which private feeling and public duty were often imagined as competing claims. Seeger, born in 1888, became one of the emblematic young poets associated with the First World War, though his poetic identity cannot be reduced to the circumstances of his death. An American who joined the French Foreign Legion, he was killed in 1916 during the Battle of the Somme. His best-known writing frequently contemplates mortality, sacrifice, youth, beauty, and a fatalistic attraction to heroic action. Readers who know this later biographical context may hear “the stern part” as an anticipatory echo of military service. The phrase “before May” may also seem to invite historical speculation about an imminent departure or campaign. Yet a responsible reading should not force the poem into a narrowly documentary frame. Seeger’s lyric is powerful precisely because it dramatizes a state of mind rather than recording a particular event.
Still, biography illuminates the emotional vocabulary of the poem. Seeger’s work often combines an intensely aesthetic sensibility with a pronounced ideal of courage. He was shaped by Romantic poetry, by French literary culture, and by a late nineteenth-century fascination with beauty joined to melancholy. In “There have been times,” these influences converge. The speaker is highly self-aware, finely responsive to the shades of feeling, and drawn to the stylized language of old lovers. At the same time, he regards personal happiness with suspicion because he believes some severe claim will soon be made upon him. The poem thus captures a characteristic tension in Seeger’s imagination: the love of beauty and the readiness to relinquish it; the hunger for life and the dream of meeting danger without retreat.
Comparison with other poets of the period can sharpen this point. Rupert Brooke, another poet associated with the war’s early idealism, often frames sacrifice in elevated, almost ceremonially beautiful terms. In Brooke’s patriotic writing, death may appear as a transformation through which the individual becomes inseparable from an idealized homeland. Seeger can share that language of exaltation, but “There have been times” is more intimate and psychologically divided. It does not imagine sacrifice as uncomplicated glory. Rather, it examines the private cost of preparing oneself for sacrifice. The threat is not only death; it is the possibility that love will make one hesitate. This is a more inward drama, played out in the speaker’s changing relation to a beloved rather than in public declarations of national belonging.
The poem can also be placed beside the English metaphysical and Romantic traditions, though it does not imitate either simply. Like the metaphysical poets, Seeger builds his lyric around a conceptual paradox: unkindness may be desirable because it protects against the debilitating sweetness of reciprocal love. Like Romantic poets, he treats feeling as a source of revelation and gives emotional intensity a nearly spiritual significance. But the poem’s manner is notably controlled. It avoids the overflow of confession that readers may associate with Romantic self-expression. Its diction is formal, even austere, and the speaker continually checks his own impulses. This restraint is essential to its impact. The poem is moving not because the speaker displays every feeling without reserve, but because we sense the enormous feeling that reserve must contain.
Its syntax participates in that containment. Several sentences unfold through qualifications and dependent clauses, mirroring a mind that thinks carefully around what it cannot directly master. The first movement begins with a concession to the past and proceeds toward a firm present decision. The middle movement explains how waiting has altered the scale of what counts as happiness. The final movement offers the poem’s darkest rationale for self-restraint. This progression is not a simple emotional resolution. Each claim produces a further complication. The speaker says he will not plead, but admits profound need. He praises patience, but then requests hurt. He appears to reject happiness, yet only because he values it enough to fear its power. Seeger’s art lies in allowing these contradictions to remain alive rather than reducing them to a moral lesson.
The poem’s sound contributes to its atmosphere of controlled intensity. Words such as “storm,” “plead,” “supplicate,” “magnified,” “importunate,” and “capricious” are emotionally charged, yet the sentences that contain them move with measured deliberation. The contrast between forceful verbs and formal diction enacts the speaker’s struggle. “Storm” is violent and elemental; “supplicate” is ceremonious and abased. “Wound” evokes a direct physical injury, while “unkindness done or said” broadens that injury into the everyday realm of action and speech. Seeger refuses to distinguish too sharply between bodily danger and emotional pain. Both can wound; both test the self’s endurance; both are implicated in the speaker’s effort to remain prepared for what lies ahead.
The gendered assumptions of the courtly-love framework also deserve attention. The beloved is addressed as a figure whose favor appears to govern the speaker’s emotional world, while the speaker casts himself as the patient sufferer and future actor of a “stern part.” Such a division reflects inherited literary conventions in which feminine caprice and masculine endurance are stylized as complementary roles. Modern readers may recognize the limitations of this convention. The beloved is not given an independent voice, and the speaker’s idealization of her freedom to wound can turn her into an instrument of his own moral drama. Yet the poem also complicates masculine ideals of mastery. Its speaker is not invulnerable. He openly confesses need, dependence, and fear of being softened by happiness. His stoicism is not natural strength but an arduous performance built against acknowledged fragility.
This makes the poem psychologically compelling. The speaker’s desire for emotional hardship may be understood as a form of anticipatory mourning. If he expects loss, he attempts to experience a lesser loss in advance. Better, he seems to think, to be denied complete happiness than to receive it and be rendered incapable of relinquishing it. Such reasoning is familiar to anyone who has felt that love becomes frightening when the future is uncertain. It appears in the emotions of those separated by war, illness, migration, dangerous work, or any circumstance that turns ordinary attachment into a source of dread. Seeger gives this defensive impulse a beautiful and unsettling form. The speaker’s self-command is admirable, but it is also lonely. His refusal to ask may preserve dignity, yet it deprives him of the possibility that the beloved might willingly answer.
Philosophically, the poem has affinities with Stoicism, particularly in its aspiration toward self-rule. The “courteous lovers” are praised because they can “rule themselves and wait.” Self-government is presented as a moral achievement: desire must not become tyranny. The speaker cannot control the beloved, time, fate, or the approaching “stern part,” but he tries to control his response. This is a recognizably Stoic distinction between what lies within the will and what lies beyond it. At the same time, the poem is not coolly Stoic. It does not claim that external goods are irrelevant. Love matters intensely; happiness has the power to unnerve; the beloved’s small favors are immense. Seeger’s speaker seeks composure not because he has ceased to care, but because caring has become almost unbearable.
The final emotional effect is therefore one of restrained anguish rather than triumphant renunciation. The poem does not celebrate pain for its own sake. Its speaker asks for unkindness because he is trying to survive the knowledge that he may soon have to leave happiness behind. This is a tragic economy: he reduces his expectations in order to make separation less devastating, but the very act of reduction reveals how much he longs for what he refuses to claim. The tenderness of the poem lies in this indirectness. Instead of saying, “Love me, because I may not remain,” the speaker says, in effect, “Do not love me too well, because I may not remain.” The reversal is devastating.
“There have been times” endures because it understands that love is not only consoling. It can sharpen one’s awareness of mortality, reveal the fragility of the future, and make duty feel more costly. Seeger transforms these difficult recognitions into a lyric of remarkable elegance. The courtly echoes, classical suggestions, formal vocabulary, and carefully restrained voice do not distance us from feeling; they give feeling a vessel strong enough to contain it. In the poem’s compressed emotional world, waiting becomes devotion, poetry becomes consolation, and unkindness becomes a desperate shield against the force of happiness. Such complexity is one of poetry’s deepest gifts: it allows contradictory impulses—love and fear, courage and vulnerability, renunciation and desire—to speak together without canceling one another.